the idiotplayers podcast: Anthony Blake, episode 02

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The idiotplayers podcast is a caravanserai of conversations with important thinkers, be-ers and doers. If there is an elephant standing in the dark, as the Sufi story goes, we want to do more than grope and theorize. We invite conversations with people who aim from the heart to make practical, the far-reaching.

We are very pleased that Anthony Blake agreed to be our first guest at the idiotplayers podcast caravanserai. Blake worked for many years with John Bennett, in particular working with Bennett on The Dramatic Universe. The conversation is wide-ranging as Blake actively sought and developed wide-ranging ideas and practices beyond any given dogma.

This conversation was recorded on Saturday, March 12, 2011. We present to you part 2 of the conversation in this episode.


Anthony Blake (born 1939) studied Physics at Bristol University with David Bohm (see Bohm-Bennett Correspondence 1962-4) and the History and Philosophy of Science at Cambridge with Gerd Buchdahl. He collaborated with engineer Edward Matchett on Creative Design (numerous papers) and worked with John Allen and the original team that built Biosphere 2 (see Biosphere 2 – the Human Experiment, edited by Blake). With the philosopher-technologist John Bennett, a leading student of the ‘fourth way’ teacher Gurdjieff, and his team he worked on the development of methods of structural thinking called systematics that led to ‘Structural Communication’ (see Kieran Egan, Structural Communication) and ‘LogoVisual Technology’ (LVT for short , see entry in Wikipedia). In 1998 he co-founded the non-profit organisation DuVersity (in the USA) centred on dialogue for which he is Director of Studies (see He has authored several books, including the most recent, A Gymnasium of Beliefs in Higher Intelligence. He has worked with leading practitioners of Group Analysis, specifically Patrick de Mare inventor of the ‘Median Group’ and Gordon Lawrence discoverer of the Social Dreaming Matrix, conducting and filming video-conversations with them and others in the field. He has conducted transpersonal psychological seminars in the USA, Europe, Mexico and China as well as conducting training in LVT in the UK, USA, Italy and China. He extended from physics into publishing and from philosophy into psychology but his core interests are dramatic process and dialogue, following the idea of the ‘dramatic universe’ he was introduced to by his main teacher, John Bennett; seeking spirituality in life’s uncertainties.

Topics and Links

Anthony Blake
A Gymnasium of Beliefs in Higher Intelligence

Coombe Springs (See note in the web page); Mevlevi Sufis (founded around the Sufi teacher Jalaluddin Rumi); Institute for the Comparative Study of History, Philosophy and the Sciences; Brill book “Contemporary Religion and Effects on Modern Culture”, the challenge of doing tasks; (NB: Information on many of the following names can be found in the piece on The Institute for the Comparative Study of History, Philosophy and the Sciences or in the Duversity Connections piece); Sherborne House; Ted Matchett; dialogue and the book “The Supreme Art of Dialogue“; kundabuffer (one of Gurdjieff’s special terms) — see Blake’s reference some way along in the paper “MAKING SYSTEMATICS A GAME“; The School of Ignorance; TRIZ (Russian School of Innovation); Tony Judge; International Association of Cooperative Agencies; BionThe Northfield Experiment; David BohmHenri Bortoft; Russian system of innovation; Deepak Chopra; the mysteries of the blacksmith; Idries Shah; Gurdjieff’s Dover’s Powder Story; Mulla Nasrudin; Combinatorial hierarchy; “Zero to Infinity“; “The Dramatic Universe“; mathematics is the language of will and the language of gesture; the Kilarney story; ring composition; chiasmus; Simon Weightman; Mathnawi; Ernest McClain; Mary Douglas, Thinking in Circles; A Gymnasium of Beliefs in Higher Intelligence; Dhu’l Nun; William Patrick Pattersonduversity.org


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